Quote: Most Of Us Prefer Not To Visit The US Now

Submitted by Jeremy
on June 26, 2008 - 11:11am

"The great majority of OpenBSD developers are from outside the United States, and I would guess that most of us prefer not to visit the US now thanks to the murderous foreign policy, authoritarian domestic surveillance, and invasive border control. You'll find few of us there. Personally I've been refusing invitations to go to, or even transit through the United States for about 6 years."

Whatever shall we do

Mojo Hand (not verified)
on
July 1, 2008 - 2:03pm

Oh no! You mean no hordes of mini-Stallmans standing around not bathing and not shaving, turning up their noses at anyone unfortunate enough to use Linux, I'm sorry GNU/Linux, and making snide comments about things their own governments also do?

However shall America get by?

pretty piss poorly it would

Anonymous (not verified)
on
July 1, 2008 - 8:38pm

pretty piss poorly it would seem...

When talkin' religion

chuck (not verified)
on
June 28, 2008 - 10:42pm

You gotta love the Theo-crats.

lol@openbsd

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 28, 2008 - 6:12pm

Like Canadian soldiers aren't fighting right alongside US soldiers in Afghanistan.

"[...] most of us prefer not

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 27, 2008 - 12:19am

"[...] most of us prefer not to visit the US now thanks to the murderous foreign policy, authoritarian domestic surveillance, and invasive border control [...]"

I am not an OpenBSD developer but I do subscribe to this point of view

This is backwards

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 28, 2008 - 11:25am

I can't help but think that it should be the other way around. I.e. that people who don't subscribe to that view make their dissatisfaction known. Because I'm pretty sure that everyone who isn't a jingoist bastard yank feels that way.

I am an OpenBSD developer

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 28, 2008 - 12:07pm

I am an OpenBSD developer and I don't subscribe to this point of view.

(re-posting since my original comment was deleted by the moderator for some obscure reason)

misread

Jeremy
on
June 28, 2008 - 2:52pm

Sorry, I mistakenly flagged your original comment as a duplicate post. I see now I misread your comment, and have unflagged it so it is visible again.

Yep

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 27, 2008 - 3:02am

+1

You're not an OpenBSD

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 27, 2008 - 3:05am

You're not an OpenBSD developer so your opinion is irrelevant.

Wisdom

Anonymous (not verified)
on
July 5, 2008 - 8:01am

Wisest thing I have read all day. I wonder what said developer would do if offered residency?

The opinion of OpenBSD

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 29, 2008 - 8:14am

The opinion of OpenBSD developers is luckily irrelevant to the U.S. government.

Imagine what would happen if they would return to a less strict policy. Terrorists
could invade the USA and kill the president.

Who's a terrorist today?

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 30, 2008 - 6:33am

You mean terrorists like Nelson Mandela or other ANC activists?
(http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-04-30-watchlist_N.htm)

Shouldn't Dalai Lama and Ghandi (though he's by now a dead terrorist so I guess that's good) have to wear a big "T" label as well, using the same standards?

To some extent the way the US decides who's a terrorist seems a lot like the green card lottery; toss a bunch of names in a hat and draw some to see who gets to be a terrorist.

Also check out section 38 of the DS-156 standard form US visitors have to fill out
(https://evisaforms.state.gov/). Talk about Intercontinental Absurdities!

And don't get me started on the US whining about human rights violations in China while still running Gitmo (to quote Anthrax [the band] "America the beautiful, land of the free. Don't change the words to land of hypocrisy")...

- Peder

Jobs just called...

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 30, 2008 - 9:12am

To follow up on my post:

"Mr President. Steve Jobs just called to say he wants his reality distortion field back. He thinks you've had it long enough now"

- Peder

2000 was a million years ago

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 30, 2008 - 9:30am

"... you promised to return it once you'd won the 2000 election, remember?"

OK, I'll stop now...

- Peder

Yeah, right...

Jack Ripoff (not verified)
on
June 30, 2008 - 6:13am

We are not that lucky...

Like they would

Mr_Z
on
June 29, 2008 - 5:10pm

Like terrorists would kill the US President. He's far more useful to them alive.

--
Program Intellivision and play Space Patrol!

"Terrorists could invade the

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 29, 2008 - 10:26am

"Terrorists could invade the USA and kill the president."
As long as they do it before November, I'm not so sure that it's a bad thing...

And make a martyr out of

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 29, 2008 - 9:16pm

And make a martyr out of him? With people feeling they have to say good things about him now? No thanks.

Hmmm, very good point, I'll

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 30, 2008 - 12:22am

Hmmm, very good point, I'll retract my statement.

Then just humiliate him good and well... Wait, he doesn't need much help with that, either.

Response

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 27, 2008 - 4:14am

Why are non-freebsd developers' comments irrelevant?

relevance

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 27, 2008 - 12:07pm

I don't think any of this is relevant on this site, including the original quote.

I'll second that.

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 27, 2008 - 1:19pm

I'll second that.

I don't think your comment

Nony Mouse (not verified)
on
July 8, 2008 - 11:19am

I don't think your comment was relevant to this site.

"[...] most of us prefer not

Anonymous (not verified)
on
June 27, 2008 - 12:08am

"[...] most of us prefer not to visit the US now thanks to the murderous foreign policy, authoritarian domestic surveillance, and invasive border control [...]"

I am an OpenBSD developer and I don't subscribe to this point of view.