Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert

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From: Linus Torvalds
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 5:39 pm

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Stephen R. van den Berg wrote:

IOW, it's not actually transferring them and saving them, since a simple 
delete of the origin branch will basically make them unreachable.

Fine. At least it works the same way as fetch, then. But it's still a huge 
mistake, because it really does mean that it is technically no different 
at all to just mentioning the SHA1 in the commit message, the way we 
already do for backports.

The "origin" link has no _meaning_ for git, in other words.


It carries along information that is worthless and meaningless and hidden.

I refuse to touch such an obviously braindamaged design. It has no sane 
_semantics_. If it doesn't have semantics, it shouldn't exist, certainly 
not as some architected feature.

Nobody has shown any actual sane meaning for it. The only ones that have 
been mentioned have been for things like avoiding re-picking commits 
during a "git rebase", but (a) the patch SHA1 does that already for things 
that are truly identical an (b) since that information isn't reliable 
_anyway_, and since it's apparently a user choice, it's just "random".

I'm sorry, but "good design" is a hell of a lot more important than some 
made-up use case that isn't even reliable, and doesn't match any actual 
real problems that anybody can explain.

			Linus
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[RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 6:22 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Tue Sep 9, 6:38 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 6:48 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 7:04 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Tue Sep 9, 8:44 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Steven Grimm, (Tue Sep 9, 9:38 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 12:43 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Tue Sep 9, 12:59 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 1:25 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Junio C Hamano, (Tue Sep 9, 1:42 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Shawn O. Pearce, (Tue Sep 9, 1:47 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Tue Sep 9, 1:50 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Tue Sep 9, 1:54 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Junio C Hamano, (Tue Sep 9, 2:05 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Tue Sep 9, 2:09 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Petr Baudis, (Tue Sep 9, 2:13 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Tue Sep 9, 3:35 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 3:56 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Petr Baudis, (Tue Sep 9, 4:05 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Tue Sep 9, 4:07 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 4:08 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 4:32 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Sep 9, 4:35 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 4:36 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 4:58 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Tue Sep 9, 4:59 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 5:13 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Sep 9, 5:23 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Tue Sep 9, 10:42 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Wed Sep 10, 1:10 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Wed Sep 10, 1:30 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Wed Sep 10, 1:45 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, and more ..., Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 4:49 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Theodore Tso, (Wed Sep 10, 5:21 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, and more ..., Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 6:14 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 7:16 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Wed Sep 10, 8:10 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, and more ..., Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 8:15 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Sep 10, 8:30 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Sep 10, 8:32 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Wed Sep 10, 8:37 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Sep 10, 8:43 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Sep 10, 8:46 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Wed Sep 10, 8:57 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Theodore Tso, (Wed Sep 10, 9:18 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Wed Sep 10, 9:23 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Petr Baudis, (Wed Sep 10, 9:40 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Wed Sep 10, 10:58 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Miklos Vajna, (Wed Sep 10, 1:32 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Nicolas Pitre, (Wed Sep 10, 1:55 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Miklos Vajna, (Wed Sep 10, 2:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 2:50 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Wed Sep 10, 2:54 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 3:34 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 3:44 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Wed Sep 10, 3:55 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 4:09 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 4:15 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 4:19 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Sep 10, 5:39 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Nicolas Pitre, (Wed Sep 10, 7:46 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Wed Sep 10, 10:16 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Wed Sep 10, 11:22 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 12:55 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Thu Sep 11, 1:20 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Thu Sep 11, 1:45 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, A Large Angry SCM, (Thu Sep 11, 5:28 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 5:31 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, A Large Angry SCM, (Thu Sep 11, 5:33 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 5:39 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Theodore Tso, (Thu Sep 11, 6:51 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Sep 11, 8:02 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 8:32 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Sep 11, 8:39 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 9:00 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Thu Sep 11, 9:01 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Sep 11, 9:23 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Thu Sep 11, 9:53 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Sep 11, 10:02 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Theodore Tso, (Thu Sep 11, 11:00 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 11:44 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 12:03 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 12:23 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Sep 11, 12:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 12:44 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Sep 11, 12:45 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 12:55 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Sep 11, 1:00 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Sep 11, 1:03 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Theodore Tso, (Thu Sep 11, 1:04 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Thu Sep 11, 1:05 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 1:16 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 1:22 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 1:24 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Sep 11, 1:27 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Theodore Tso, (Thu Sep 11, 2:01 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Junio C Hamano, (Thu Sep 11, 2:05 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Thu Sep 11, 2:46 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 3:32 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 3:40 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 3:56 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Thu Sep 11, 4:01 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Sep 11, 4:10 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 4:17 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Thu Sep 11, 4:26 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Sam Vilain, (Thu Sep 11, 4:28 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 4:36 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Sep 11, 4:44 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, A Large Angry SCM, (Thu Sep 11, 5:03 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 5:13 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, A Large Angry SCM, (Thu Sep 11, 5:30 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Sam Vilain, (Thu Sep 11, 7:24 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 10:39 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 10:47 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Rogan Dawes, (Thu Sep 11, 11:19 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Thu Sep 11, 11:56 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Fri Sep 12, 1:40 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Fri Sep 12, 1:50 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Theodore Tso, (Fri Sep 12, 7:58 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Fri Sep 12, 8:05 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jakub Narebski, (Fri Sep 12, 8:11 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Paolo Bonzini, (Fri Sep 12, 8:40 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Fri Sep 12, 8:54 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Theodore Tso, (Fri Sep 12, 9:00 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Jeff King, (Fri Sep 12, 9:19 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Fri Sep 12, 9:43 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Theodore Tso, (Fri Sep 12, 11:44 am)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Stephen R. van den Berg, (Fri Sep 12, 1:56 pm)
Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert, Sam Vilain, (Mon Sep 15, 5:21 am)