On Friday 15 June 2007 07:24, Theodore Tso wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:20:19PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> > So, you see, your statement above, about wanting to be able to use
> > other people's improvements, cannot be taken without qualification.
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> No.  Linus and other Linux kernels might *want* to take other people's
> improvements, but thanks to Richard Stallman's choices for GPLv3, they
> can *not* legally take other people's improvements without violating
> the GPLv3 license.  That's not their fault, it's the fault of people
> who wrote the GPLv3 license, promulgated the GPLv3 license, and who is
> attempting to convince everyone that the GPLv3 license is the only
> valid license for Right Thinking FSF automatons to use.

Ah no, it's their fault. The GPLv2 always was clear that there will be some=
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future releases of the GPL, and that you should keep "upgrading" possible.

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> There are plenty of things that I might *want* to do, that I am
> legally prohibited from doing.  that doesn't change the fact that I
> might want to do it.  The fact that GPLv3 is incompatible with GPLv2
> is a tragedy, in the Greek sense.

The GPLv2 tries hard to be compatible with any further versions of the GPL=
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as possible, by allowing people to choose which license you take, and by=20
making sure that no man in the middle can restrict this choice. If people=20
deliberately select to use "GPLv2 only", who's to blame? RMS? Come on,=20
that's bullshit. It's *Linus Torvalds* who made Linux incompatible with=20
GPLv3, nobody else - ok, Al Viro with his tagged GPLv2 files (and honestly,=
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I think this is just another Linus misinterpretation about the GPL, and he=
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really didn't do it, because he couldn't).

This thread was fun, but I think all arguments have been repeated often=20
enough. I try to give up. I suggest everyone who has some assertions about=
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what the GPLv2 does read it through and find the place where it says so.=20
Unfortunately, I haven't seen GPL citations from the Linus-fanboy curve,=20
only suggestions that the GPL "does not say something" which it clearly=20
does.

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Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://www.jwdt.com/~paysan/