Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

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To: Andrew Morton <akpm@...>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@...>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...>, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 6:58 am

On Saturday 15 September 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:

I have 2 SMP-Boards and both need noapic. One is from 2001 (AUSUS CUR-DLS),
one is from June 2006 (Gigabyte M57SLI-S4).

There are many reasons:

1. Bugs which have such a simple workaround don't get much attention.

2. Usually SMP boards are used for machines, which just HAVE to work,
   since they have been expensive. These are not consumer boards.

3. I usually had only USB problems (no IRQ), if ommiting noapic.
   USB technology is a cosumer grade technology and enterprise
   grade developers don't have much interest in it (until now?).

4. IRQ routing setup is often a BIOS issue. You might be able
   to fix that by upgrading your BIOS. That often needs a Windows
   tool. Linux people not always (want to) have access to Windows :-)

I reported the all the problems (starting 2001), no developer 
seemed interested.

I can report them against the latest RC6 kernel tomorrow and put them
into bugzilla, if we now REALLY care.


Best Regards

Ingo Oeser
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Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Wed Sep 5, 7:30 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Andi Kleen, (Thu Sep 6, 7:31 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Andrew Morton, (Sat Sep 15, 3:39 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Sep 15, 2:42 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Ingo Oeser, (Sat Sep 15, 6:58 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Andrew Morton, (Sat Sep 15, 7:08 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Matthew Garrett, (Sat Sep 15, 8:08 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Dave Jones, (Mon Sep 24, 5:32 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Phillip Susi, (Thu Sep 27, 6:03 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Fri Sep 7, 3:34 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Prakash Punnoor, (Sat Sep 8, 1:17 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Mon Sep 10, 3:12 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Andi Kleen, (Mon Sep 10, 3:44 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Thu Sep 13, 12:38 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Sep 25, 5:06 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Mon Sep 10, 7:33 pm)