Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?

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To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...>, Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@...>, Andi Kleen <andi@...>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...>, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...>
Date: Monday, September 24, 2007 - 5:32 pm

On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 01:08:25PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
 > On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:08:02AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
 > 
 > > I believe that about two years ago we broke something which caused quite a
 > > large number of people to need noapic.  Is that the case with any of your
 > > machines?  Do you know if they run 2.6.ancient without noapic?
 > 
 > My recollection is that we shifted from "Enable the apic even if the 
 > BIOS disabled it" to "Only use the apic if the BIOS didn't disable it" 
 > around that time, which meant that distributions could actually turn on 
 > apic-on-up support without breaking everything. That might correspond to 
 > what you're seeing.

If memory serves correctly, that was circa 2.6.10, back in these commits..

commit a068ea13d1db406e15c346e93530343f6e70184c
Author: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Date:   Sun Oct 10 05:21:08 2004 -0400

    [ACPI] If BIOS disabled the LAPIC, believe it by default.
    "lapic" is available to force enabling the LAPIC
    in the event you know more than your BIOS vendor.
    http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3238

commit 2fcfece90db9643b6f30a7ad343898a2871e6a81
Author: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Date:   Sat Oct 9 20:12:45 2004 -0400

    [ACPI] Don't enable LAPIC when the BIOS disabled it.
    Doing so apparently breaks every Dell on Earth.
    http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3238


But those changes relate to the local APIC, which 'noapic' shouldn't
have any effect on should it ?

	Dave

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Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Wed Sep 5, 7:30 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Andi Kleen, (Thu Sep 6, 7:31 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Andrew Morton, (Sat Sep 15, 3:39 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sat Sep 15, 2:42 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Ingo Oeser, (Sat Sep 15, 6:58 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Andrew Morton, (Sat Sep 15, 7:08 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Matthew Garrett, (Sat Sep 15, 8:08 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Dave Jones, (Mon Sep 24, 5:32 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Phillip Susi, (Thu Sep 27, 6:03 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Fri Sep 7, 3:34 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Prakash Punnoor, (Sat Sep 8, 1:17 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Mon Sep 10, 3:12 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Andi Kleen, (Mon Sep 10, 3:44 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Thu Sep 13, 12:38 pm)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Sep 25, 5:06 am)
Re: Why do so many machines need "noapic"?, Chuck Ebbert, (Mon Sep 10, 7:33 pm)