Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default

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From: Linus Torvalds
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 11:42 am

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Mark Hounschell wrote:

The thing is, the reason I dislike RT is that so many people have so 
different understanding of what RT means.

Quite frankly, I think that the people who are complaining (like you) 
think that RT means "hard realtime". You think about literally specialized 
devices.

A lot of _other_ people think that RT means "good audio latency", where it 
really is a lot softer. 

And neither camp seems to ever admit that they are just a small camp, and 
that the other camp exists or is even valid.

And I'm not really interested. Quite frankly, I suspect the "we want to 
run something like pulseaudio with RT priorities" camp is the more common 
one, and in that context I understand limiting SCHED_FIFO sounds perfectly 
understandable.

As to your


quite frankly, most programmers aren't "supposedly bad". And if you think 
that the hard-RT "real man" programmers aren't bad, I really have nothing 
to say.

		Linus

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[PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Peter Zijlstra, (Tue Aug 19, 3:33 am)
[PATCH] sched: extract walk_tg_tree(), fix, Ingo Molnar, (Tue Aug 19, 4:42 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Max Krasnyansky, (Tue Aug 19, 11:15 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Aug 26, 4:09 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Theodore Tso, (Tue Aug 26, 5:50 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Stefani Seibold, (Tue Aug 26, 6:31 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Mark Hounschell, (Tue Aug 26, 6:47 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Theodore Tso, (Tue Aug 26, 10:55 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Thomas Gleixner, (Tue Aug 26, 2:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Steven Rostedt, (Tue Aug 26, 4:00 pm)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Chris Friesen, (Wed Aug 27, 11:55 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Peter Zijlstra, (Thu Aug 28, 4:19 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Peter Zijlstra, (Thu Aug 28, 5:00 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Aug 28, 7:15 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Aug 28, 8:12 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Aug 28, 8:50 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Peter Zijlstra, (Thu Aug 28, 9:05 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Aug 28, 9:15 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Max Krasnyansky, (Thu Aug 28, 9:19 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Peter Zijlstra, (Thu Aug 28, 9:29 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Max Krasnyansky, (Thu Aug 28, 9:33 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Aug 28, 10:26 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Aug 28, 11:04 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Darren Hart, (Thu Aug 28, 11:10 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Mark Hounschell, (Thu Aug 28, 11:16 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Aug 28, 11:42 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Steven Rostedt, (Thu Aug 28, 11:53 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Stefani Seibold, (Thu Aug 28, 12:39 pm)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Mike Galbraith, (Fri Aug 29, 12:56 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Peter Zijlstra, (Fri Aug 29, 1:06 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Mike Galbraith, (Fri Aug 29, 1:47 am)
Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default, Nick Piggin, (Fri Aug 29, 11:33 pm)