Re: [side thread] security implcations of multiple kernel threads?

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From: Ted Unangst
Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 11:44 am

On 10/9/07, Douglas A. Tutty <dtutty@porchlight.ca> wrote:

actually, i think henning wanted to say that the network stack runs in
no threads. :)


the stack runs entirely as interrupts.  if there were a thread, we
could add another, but going from 0 to 1 is more work than 1 to 2.

networking workloads do not always divide up among CPUs nicely.
assuming the code is written, just turning 2 or more CPUs loose on a
stream of packets is likely to result in reordering, which is bad.  to
avoid reordering, you need lots of queueing, which hurts performance
and drives up latency.  the problem is unfortunately not as simple as
add a lock here, a thread there, and presto.
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firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Florin Andrei, (Thu Oct 4, 5:48 pm)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Stuart Henderson, (Fri Oct 5, 1:31 am)
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Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Florin Andrei, (Mon Oct 8, 10:41 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Florin Andrei, (Mon Oct 8, 10:59 am)
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Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Florin Andrei, (Mon Oct 8, 5:28 pm)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Karsten McMinn, (Mon Oct 8, 6:05 pm)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Henning Brauer, (Tue Oct 9, 4:32 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Florin Andrei, (Tue Oct 9, 9:07 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Florin Andrei, (Tue Oct 9, 9:27 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Henning Brauer, (Tue Oct 9, 11:03 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Florin Andrei, (Tue Oct 9, 1:49 pm)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Henning Brauer, (Wed Oct 10, 12:35 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Siju George, (Wed Oct 10, 6:04 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Henning Brauer, (Wed Oct 10, 6:15 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Peter N. M. Hansteen, (Wed Oct 10, 6:35 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Scott Wells, (Wed Oct 10, 7:01 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Robert C Wittig, (Wed Oct 10, 7:24 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Paul de Weerd, (Wed Oct 10, 7:41 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Jon Radel, (Wed Oct 10, 7:47 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Tony Abernethy, (Wed Oct 10, 7:59 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Siju George, (Wed Oct 10, 8:23 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Tony Abernethy, (Wed Oct 10, 9:20 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Stuart Henderson, (Wed Oct 10, 10:04 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Robert C Wittig, (Wed Oct 10, 10:34 am)
Re: [side thread] security implcations of multiple kernel ..., Ted Unangst, (Wed Oct 10, 11:44 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Ted Unangst, (Wed Oct 10, 11:54 am)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Paul de Weerd, (Wed Oct 10, 12:01 pm)
Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong, Henning Brauer, (Wed Oct 10, 1:20 pm)
Re: [side thread] security implcations of multiple kernel ..., Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Oct 10, 3:25 pm)
SOLVED [was: firewall is very slow, something's wrong], Florin Andrei, (Tue Oct 16, 2:57 pm)
Re: SOLVED [was: firewall is very slow, something's wrong], Stuart Henderson, (Tue Oct 16, 3:44 pm)