Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

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Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 9:14 pm

> Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits.

You've been smoking something really mind altering, and I think you
should share it.

x86 virtualization is about basically placing another nearly full
kernel, full of new bugs, on top of a nasty x86 architecture which
barely has correct page protection. Then running your operating
system on the other side of this brand new pile of shit.

You are absolutely deluded, if not stupid, if you think that a
worldwide collection of software engineers who can't write operating
systems or applications without security holes, can then turn around
and suddenly write virtualization layers without security holes.

You've seen something on the shelf, and it has all sorts of pretty
colours, and you've bought it.

That's all x86 virtualization is.

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About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., carlopmart, (Mon Oct 22, 4:05 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Nick Guenther, (Mon Oct 22, 3:11 pm)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Jeff Quast, (Mon Oct 22, 6:07 pm)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Luca Corti, (Tue Oct 23, 4:03 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Ben Goren, (Tue Oct 23, 11:35 pm)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Douglas A. Tutty, (Wed Oct 24, 9:58 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .. , Theo de Raadt, (Tue Oct 23, 9:14 pm)
Re: Non-x86, Lars Noodén, (Fri Oct 26, 3:54 am)
Re: Non-x86, Ted Unangst, (Fri Oct 26, 11:28 am)
Re: Non-x86, Lars Noodén, (Fri Oct 26, 12:17 pm)
Re: Non-x86, Martin Schröder, (Fri Oct 26, 12:23 pm)
Re: Non-x86, Lars Noodén, (Mon Oct 29, 12:53 pm)
Re: Non-x86, Matthew Szudzik, (Tue Oct 30, 2:26 pm)
Re: Non-x86, Douglas A. Tutty, (Mon Oct 29, 5:47 pm)
Re: Non-x86, Matthew Szudzik, (Fri Oct 26, 5:03 pm)
Re: Non-x86, Jeff Quast, (Sun Oct 28, 9:59 am)
Re: Non-x86, Douglas A. Tutty, (Sun Oct 28, 11:27 am)
Re: Non-x86, Martin Schröder, (Fri Oct 26, 7:39 am)
Re: Non-x86, mickey, (Fri Oct 26, 7:49 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Adam Getchell, (Wed Oct 24, 1:41 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., carlopmart, (Wed Oct 24, 9:38 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Chris Kuethe, (Wed Oct 24, 10:14 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Christoph Egger, (Wed Oct 24, 11:10 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Artur Grabowski, (Wed Oct 24, 11:25 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Christoph Egger, (Wed Oct 24, 11:33 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., carlopmart, (Wed Oct 24, 11:45 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., carlopmart, (Wed Oct 24, 10:20 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .. , Damien Miller, (Tue Oct 23, 9:25 pm)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .. , Carlo Gebhardt, (Fri Oct 26, 6:58 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Per-Erik Persson, (Tue Oct 23, 5:00 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Ted Unangst, (Tue Oct 23, 12:39 pm)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Lars Hansson, (Tue Oct 23, 6:56 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Lars Noodén, (Tue Oct 23, 6:45 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., carlopmart, (Tue Oct 23, 3:07 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Henning Brauer, (Tue Oct 23, 8:19 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Christoph Egger, (Wed Oct 24, 11:09 am)
Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but .., Ted Unangst, (Wed Oct 24, 2:09 pm)