>     few mentioned changes. Apples to apples comparisons I say. I adjust
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>     my repositories in a repository browser and poke away. I find java, I
>     find tools to work with many non-free pieces of software as well.
> 
> Could you explain what "I adjust my repositories in a repository
> browser" means, precisely?  I need to know the details in order to see
> whether this is a problem that gNewSense is responsible for.
> 
> Non-free software is available on the net, and people can find and
> install it.  I think that is unethical, but gNewSense is not
> responsible for that (and neither is OpenBSD).  On the other hand, if
> there is something in gNewSense recommending or leading you to that
> non-free software, that would be the responsibility of gNewSense.
> 
>     So OpenBSD becomes non-free because we don't have a database column
>     that labels stuff non-free, or a special folder for non-free packages?
> 
> Putting the non-free software in a separate folder or labeling it is
> not enough.  That is what Debian does, and that's why I don't
> recommend Debian.  Likewise, that's what Ubuntu does nowadays, which
> is why I don't recommend Ubuntu.  Gobuntu does the same thing -- the
> non-free repositories are disabled by default, but a dialog box offers
> the chance to enable them.  So I don't recommend Gobuntu either.
> 
> (Gobuntu also has the problem that its name is so close to Ubuntu that
> people would get them confused.  Practically speaking it is not
> feasible to recommend Gobuntu without recommending Ubuntu.)
> 
> The right thing to do is kick out the non-free softwre entirely.  I
> tried for years to persuade Debian to do that, and eventually I gave
> up on them.  I tried to talk with the Ubuntu developers about this,
> too, and did not succeed.  All I can do is not recommend those
> distros.


Boo hoo, hoo, hoo.

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