Re: minimo (browser on freerunner)

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From: arne anka
Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 3:41 pm

i just built minimo and cellwriter for the freerunner (gta02), which went  
surprisingly well ...
make build-package-minimo
and
make build-package-cellwriter
the hardes part was finding the packages afterwards.
i put them into two tar-balls, *dbg, *-dev, *-doc and the runtime one.
links see below.
how cellwriter is supposed to replace the i don't know and with minimo  
there's always 1/3 of the screen occupied by the keyboard (if somebody  
knows how to make that more flexible, ie the keyboard popping up when  
necessary, let me know).

for ipk see
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/16

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From: Michael Kluge
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 12:09 am

I just found this: http://japiblog.dddgames.com/?p=15

I'll give matchbox-applet-inputmanager a chance ...


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From: Michael Kluge
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 12:32 am

Here is the quick and dirty process for manually showing and hiding the 
keyboard.

- kill the matchbox-keyboard process
- (install and) start matchbox-applet-inputmanager
- run minimo

TODO would be a nicer icon in the applet bar (should be easy) and and to 
  put this into the matchbox config.


Michael

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From: Michael Kluge
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 12:51 am

Not so funny. Works exactly once and ends afterwards with:

matchbox-keyboa <defunct>


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From: arne anka
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 4:11 am

some hours ago someone already posted how to add the keyboard toggle:

matchbox-panel-2 --start-applets systray,startup \
   --end-applets
openmoko-panel-clock,keyboard,openmoko-panel-battery,openmoko-panel-gsm,openmoko-panel-gps,openmoko-panel-usb,openmoko-p
anel-bt,openmoko-panel-memory,openmoko-panel-wifi --titlebar &

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-July/021296.html
after rebooting or restarting X in the upper right corner there's a  
keyboard icon ...

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From: Michael Kluge
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 4:36 am

Ups. Missed that. Looks good. Works :)

Michael



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From: Vinc Duran
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 10:43 pm

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Hi Arne, Everyone,
I'm having a hard time implementing what's described here.  This is from my
terminal:

root@om-gta02:~# matchbox-panel-2 --start-applets systray,startup
--end-applets

** (matchbox-panel-2:1878): WARNING **: Missing argument for --end-applets

I tried entering it a couple of different ways. All one very long line, Two
separate commands.  If I can get a hand with this I'll update the Gettting
Started page right under the instructions for minimo.

Thanks,
Vinc

(I'm using a GTA2, 2007.2 from the factory, I've run opkg update and opkg
upgrade.)


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<div dir="ltr">Hi Arne, Everyone,<br>I'm having a hard time implementing what's described here.  This is from my terminal:<br><br><div style="margin-left: 40px;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">root@om-gta02:~# matchbox-panel-2 --start-applets systray,startup --end-applets</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">
<br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">** (matchbox-panel-2:1878): WARNING **: Missing argument for --end-applets</span><br><br></div>I tried entering it a couple of different ways. All one very long line, Two separate commands.  If I can get a hand with this I'll update the Gettting Started page right under the instructions for minimo.<br>
<br>Thanks,<br>Vinc<br><br>(I'm using a GTA2, 2007.2 from the factory, I've run opkg update and opkg upgrade.)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 11:11 AM, arne anka <<a href="mailto:openmoko@ginguppin.de">openmoko@ginguppin.de</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt ...
From: arne anka
Date: Friday, July 18, 2008 - 1:51 am

it should be one line from matchbox-panel-2 until --titlebar &

matchbox-panel-2 --start-applets systray,startup --end-applets  
openmoko-panel-clock,keyboard,openmoko-panel-battery,openmoko-panel-gsm,openmoko-panel-gps,openmoko-panel-usb,openmoko-panel-bt,openmoko-panel-memory,openmoko-panel-wifi  
--titlebar &

not sure, though, how matchbox takes it if you send it to a running  
matchbox-panel, it'll probably crash and you have to restart X or reboot.

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From: Michael Kluge
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 12:15 am

I just found this: http://japiblog.dddgames.com/?p=15

matchbox-applet-inputmanager might be able to help here. I give it a try.


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From: Brian C
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 1:52 am

Thanks very much for the .ipk, which installed fine for me.  However, I
have not yet been to an https secure site that hasn't crashed minimo.
Is this expected?  How might I capture more log info to figure out
what's happening?

Brian

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From: arne anka
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 4:18 am

dunno.
i am in no way affiliated with minimo, just tried to build it, and after  
success share it.
bear in mind that according to the package name the code is over a year  
old.
don't know yet how to get newer stuff into the bit bakery, pidgin f ex  
keeps crashing while displaying/accepting a certificate and it's 2.2.1  
which is superseded be 2.4.3 anyway.

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From: henrikz
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 1:17 am

hi

i bumped into another keyboard related issue with minimo. suddenly i couldnt
erase nor overwrite the default URL and visit something else... this used to
work! it seems that my (matchbox) keyboard freezes if the POWER CABLE is
plugged in, unplugging the cable instantly solved the issue, just as
plugging the cable back in re-freezes the keyboard. any ideas? can anyone
else confirm this?

//henrik 

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From: arne anka
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 2:23 am

don't use minimo until i get gprs up and running (i mostly need it to  
check time tables).
does it happen with the charger only or everytime you connect usb?

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From: henrikz
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 3:25 am

It happens both with the AC charger and the usb-cable.

Intrestingly it doesn't freeze the keyboard when using i.e. the terminal,
however it messes up the key-bindings e.g.:

With usb plugged in:
the minus key "-" outputs a backslash "\"
the "}" outputs a "∼"

with usb unplugged the signs are output correctly!

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From: Brian C
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 5:05 am

I experienced the - outputting \ a few days ago and didn't realize it
was related to the cable being connected, but I'm sure I had the cable
connected at the time.  Nice find.

Brian

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From: Charles-Henri Gros
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 8:30 pm

Interesting, I had the same problem but fixed it by replacing
keyboard.xml with a symlink to another version (in my case, the dvorak
version, which worked)

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From: Robert William Hutton
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 12:38 am

I had the same problem as this, but it seems to be working now.  I'll 
let you know if I see a predictable pattern on this one.

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From: Al Johnson
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 5:03 am

Confirmed with 2007.2 and matchbox keyboard. In minimo if the PSU cable is 
plugged in the keyboard will not enter URLs. When I first tried this with USB 
it worked, but having then connected to the PSU to verify the problem then 
switched back to USB it no longer works that way either. If I switch to the 
terminal the keyboard works as expected with  PSU or USB plugged in. Note 
that 'as expected' includes the known bug that changes some of the keyboard 
input when USB is plugged in. Curiously when minimo was working with usb 
plugged in it exhibited this problem for the first keypress, but subsequent 
key presses were correct. I noted this because t struck me as odd, but since 
it now doesn't work at all with USB I have been unable to repeat it.

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