Sections & Other New Features

Submitted by Jeremy
on February 19, 2002 - 7:06am

As KernelTrap has recently migrated to drupal, we've gained some new features. The one that I'd like to draw people's attention to at this time is the introduction of "sections". In addition to the news that makes it to the front page, other stories will also be posted on the section pages.

If I deem a story to be interesting, but not worthy of the front page, it will instead be posted to a section page. The currently defined sections are listed below:

Current sections are:

  • FreeBSD
  • Hurd
  • KernelTrap Interviews
  • Linux
  • OpenBSD

    As new content is added, new sections will be created if needed. All section are linked from the "Navigation" box on the right side of your screen.


    Another new feature is the ability for users to vote for stories in the submission queue, helping to determine if it should be posted or dumped. With enough positive votes it'll automatically be posted. With enough negative votes, it'll automatically be dumped.
    Finally, users also gain the ability to write blogs, or online journals. Blogs can be linked to the front page, as with any other story. I encourage people to use the blog feature, in addition to submitting stories... :^)
  • Blogs are great, but...

    jmz
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 7:38am

    There are already so many places on the web where people can write blogs. Why create yet another blog site.?
    I'd recommend Kuro5hin or Adequacy, depending on your preferences. For a no-community blog, go to blogger.

    RE: Blogs are great, but...

    Jeremy
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 8:17am

    I have no interest in becoming "yet another blog site"... However, I am happy to be able to provide the service to anyone who wishes to utilize it... ;^)

    RE: Blogs are great, but...

    nimrod
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 9:59am

    i am a little confused about blogs. i know they're "weblogs", but what is their purpose? are they "diaries"? or are they simply places to post one's ramblings?
    or what?

    another question: what is the purpose of having blogs in kerneltrap? is there a specific purpose? or are they simply here for anyone who wants to have a 'diary'? (i use lots of questionmarks, don't i? ;D)

    RE: Blogs are great, but...

    Jeremy
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 10:45am

    I'm open to most anything... The only thing I won't accept is advertising. That's not the purpose. (Which is to say, you can talk about a project you're working on or using, but if all you say is "check out my site" that doesn't add anything.)

    What I'm looking for: original content.

    My preference: that it's in some way related to developing/using kernels.

    I think you hit the nail on t

    Anonymous
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 9:54pm

    I think you hit the nail on the head with original content. I can get the latest Linux kernel news without subscribing to lkml. Together with Kernel Traffic, there's no other place I come to for kernel news. The interviews are great too.

    If you can convince Alan Cox to move his diary here, then I think everyone would change their minds about the blogs. :)

    And its nice to find out what's going on with all the other *nix's too.

    Blogs

    Anonymous
    on
    February 20, 2002 - 1:45pm

    (I'm one of the developers for Drupal. I do mostly themes and graphics but some coding too.)

    Most weblogs are indeed personal diaries and they are contained on a personal site.

    On Drop.org (the first Drupal site), the blogs are not really used as personal diaries: they're not intended to be full blown regular 'blogs as they are published on a community site.
    They are rather used as semi-personal news items. For example, I'm going to redesign my personal site, so I posted a blog about it along with a question to the community asking for feedback on general personal website design. It got voted to the front page, and thus became just like a regular story.

    We've found that the blogs increased the submission rate massively. Most people won't want to spend time writing an article, but posting a blog entry is easily done. A blog doesn't need to be full story, but can be a short question, link, etc. You can view all blogs together, or per user. You can grab an XML feed of a user's blog separately as well (e.g. for inclusion on your own site).

    Really neat that you chose Drupal for kerneltrap: I'm sure your large userbase will provide even more feedback for us :)

    By the way I really hope we'll progress fast on the Drupal CVS because it has a lot of new features (but isn't ready for most sites, as it lacks some things). One of the things I find most handy is the Distributed Authentication: if this were a Drupal CVS site, I wouldn't be an Anonymous Chicken, I'd just log-in with my Drupal ID from Drop.org. You can log-in with a Drupal ID, Yahoo ID, DelphiForums ID, Jabber ID, etc. Really neat, and saves having to create an account for each site. Of course this only matters if you visit Drupal sites, but it's still handy :).

    Steven Wittens / UnConeD
    (unconed@drop.org)

    Sections

    Cabal
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 8:11am

    Could something be added next to each section so we know when the latest story to that section was posted (perhaps a date)? Clicking through 6 or more sections just to see if there's a new story that's not on the front page would get a bit tedious.

    RE: Section

    Jeremy
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 8:16am

    Yes... Good idea. I'll add some php code to the Navigation block so it says NEW next to sections with new stories added in the last few (3?) days... (I'll look into this tonight after work)

    RE: Section

    sirjoekcb
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 2:32pm

    I think I would prefer the date of the last post, as if it merely says NEW for three days or so you cannot tell whether the new item is the same new item that you looked at two days ago, or one that was posted this morning.

    RE:Sections

    Anonymous
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 5:09pm

    Yes, I agree. The date is excact (I just have to remember the difference in time sones :)).

    Hallvor

    cool but...

    Anonymous
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 3:25pm

    how many articles do you really think there will be for each of those sections.

    Personally I think it would be great to just post everything to the front page. I would read this site more than once a day if I thought there was going to be new articles.

    (btw. I've never submitted my own article here so i suck. but i really like reading articles other people post)

    or add just the headlines of

    Anonymous
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 5:24pm

    or add just the headlines of articles in the subsections

    Don't. . . .

    Anonymous
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 6:50pm

    I'm not sure sections are a very good idea.

    I have always found the sections on Slashdot irritating. Thank goodness you can now promote all sections to the front page. I do that.

    If you're posting more than 20 stories a day, maybe it's right to use sections. Otherwise, I'd rather scroll.

    RE: Don't

    Jeremy
    on
    February 19, 2002 - 9:43pm

    Actually, I think the thing about Slashdot that makes it annoying is how many stories are posted to the front page, but not to the section pages. Thus, you could read the BSD section, for example, and still miss countless BSD related stories.

    I will indeed be utilizing sections on KernelTrap. Any story that appears on the front page will always also appear on the appropriate section page(s). However, every story that appears in a section will not always appear on the front page.

    As for 20 stories a day - we'll need more submissions... ;^)

    I got home too late from work tonight to setup the "new" tag (with a date, as per suggestions). Hopefully tomorrow...

    Cookies still not being held for more than an hour or two

    Anonymous
    on
    February 20, 2002 - 6:44pm

    n/t

    Where is the rdf?

    Anonymous
    on
    February 21, 2002 - 6:17pm

    People who like newstickers, like me (i run newsticker gkrellm plugin) will miss the rdf file.
    A lot of weblogs have it, and i think it's useful. See:
    http://slashdot.org/slashdot.rdf
    http://www.newsforge.com/newsforge.rdf
    http://www.kde.org/dotkdeorg.rdf
    We all will be happy if someone enables that.
    pd: I hate the new fonts

    Older Stories

    Anonymous
    on
    February 24, 2002 - 5:40am

    Your archive is a useful resource in its own righ