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OK, another annoying newbie here. After installing openBSD and getting x to work and MC -c command, I goto the /user/ports/X11/KDE and type make. THis starts a 10hour process that at some point, (and at different points) freezes up. If I reboot and try it again it gives a number of errors which appears to be because I've already tried it once. So I have to reload openBSD and try again with the same problem, Soooo, Here are my questions.
1. Can KDE be run on openbsd? IF so how?
2. When you run the "make" command and it doesn't finish, how do you undo what its done so you can try to run it again?
3. Are there other things you must install first before KDE to make the "Make" work?
Yes KDE can be ran on OpenBSD
Yes KDE can be ran on OpenBSD by using the same process you are doing.
You can "make clean"
KDE depends upon Qt and kdelib's primarily, though there are many other dependencies if you consider the whole scope. I assume the OpenBSD ports system will resolve dependencies automatically.
Thanks a million.
Well, the "make clean" was a keeper for sure. With that I have gotten allot farther. Now, it appears KDE went in but for the life of me I can find where it put it, or what to run to start it. You have a path?
Where I can get KDE for OpenBSD
sorry if my english too bad, i'am from indonesia...
after installation openBSD in my machine, i want to installing kde in openBSD.
the situation is :
in my university rule at proxy server just allow traffic from http request.
i found where can i get kde for openBSD but that all useinf ftp.
so can all help me. where i can get kde for openBSD that use http protocol
OK thanks a lot
openBSD said KDE is not
openBSD said KDE is not secure.
You can only install a toned down KDE version
ditto. You should use dwm
ditto. You should use dwm instead and forget about KDE and Gnome bloatware. In about 1kloc it has support for QT and GTK+ apps, OpenGL, SDL, it has the fastest app launcher and looks much better than KDE. It should be in base instead of the crappy wms that come with x11.
The less ports code you use, the safer you are, and DEs have a lot of code.
if it takes 10 hours you bett
if it takes 10 hours you better grab the packages from ftp.openbsd.org
you need at least:
qt
arts
kdelibs
kdebase
good luck
to make it even easier KDE on OpenBSD
ftp up to a mirror site and
goto the packages directory and download all of the PACKAGES for KDE
and then do a pkg_add *.tgz
it will barf out dependencies simply grab them from the ftp site (PACKAGES) and re rerun pkg_add *.tgz
then when its done
xf86config
and then
startkde
good luck I assure you it will work perfectly!
tried but I got lot's of errors
I tried installing KDE, but I am having a lot of errors in dependencies. I have tried to install using two different methods:
1. Download all tgz's for KDE and all dependencies (QT,arts, etc.) then pkg_add *.tgz. For some of the depencies I got errors such as "checking libspec mng.2.0" then "mng.2.0 not found". I also had errors such as "can't resolve libxml-2.6.5" and others that look like this. I assumed that I had an issue with my ftp downloads, so I re-downloaded with same results.
2. I used "pkg_add -v ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/.../kdelibs-3.2.1.tgz". I got the same results as above. The last thing that I will try is to rm * my tgz files locally and retry the pkg_add via ftp.
I am out of ideas...anyone?
Thanks
try this
matrix# setenv PKG_PATH ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/3.5/packages/i386/
matrix# pkg_add kdebase-3.2.1.tgz
that's what I did, and it worked just fine after I put startkde
worked like a charm
version of OpenBSD: 4.1
simple and fun!
If you guys can't figure this
If you guys can't figure this out on your own, you probably should be starting out on one of the n00b linux distro's.
If you want to use something like OpenBSD, you need to do your homework. Installing binary packages is one of the easiest things to do (and you'd know how to do it if you had read even SOME of the readily-available documentation). If you don't have things like your system variables set up yet (e.g., $PKG_PATH), then you haven't even properly configured your sytem. But no, you're impatiently charging out there to install a humongous desktop environment with thousands of dependencies, before you've even thought about (or KNOW enough to think about) whether to install from binaries or compile from source.
Did you complete the afterboot procedures? Have you decided to patch the system, or are you tracking stable or current?
My advice, no offense intended, is to go install Kubuntu.
It's hostility like this from
It's hostility like this from the 'community' that turns people off of an awesome OS like OpenBSD. If you're going to post at all, why not post links to the documentation instead of rattling off insults like an elitist prick?
If you are still having trouble installing KDE on OpenBSD, check the documentation here:
http://www.openbsd.org/ports.html
You're right. I'm sorry.
You're right. I'm sorry.
Here's the link:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq
duh
You are not helpful
Don't blast people for asking questions. Show how much YOU know, flex those skills, and help them.
OpenBSD is one of the best *nix distros out there. It is also one of the hardest. But, you don't learn unless you're not afraid to roll up your sleeves and get into it. That's how I learned, by "impatiently charging out there."
Besides, you're an idiot. There is no such word as humongous. I learned that in 4th grade.
>Don't blast people for askin
>Don't blast people for asking questions. Show how much YOU know,
>flex those skills, and help them.
people who are too lazy to read the most essential documentation before starting with a technical product, are the same kind of people that refuse to read their vcr's documentation and rely on their kids to do it. my point being: don't get into applied computer science (eg. system administration) without the passion to delve into the details. this kind of immature attitude has given the world already plenty of misconfigured machines with all the trouble that comes with them...
there is a whole generation of clueless idiots out there, that grew up on windows or some linux-with-a-gui, and they all think they are the greatest computer geniuses because they can google for some how-to and then blindly type in commands...
people who aren't smart and mature enough to figure out the basics of system administrion on their own, should do the effort of taking classes or training if they want to succeed in it, or at least read the fsck'in faq's and manual pages.
>Besides, you're an idiot. There is no such word as humongous.
>I learned that in 4th grade.
yes there is: http://www.tfd.com/humongous
SUCKER ! >people who are too
SUCKER !
>people who are too lazy to read the most essential documentation before starting with a technical product
OK but what to do if you don't speak english ? Is it really stupid to ask questions ?
>people who aren't smart and mature enough to figure out the basics of system administrion on their own
on their own... sorry my name's not einstein !
u r a troll
u r a troll
"There is no such word as
"There is no such word as humongous. I learned that in 4th grade."
Sure there is - it even appears in the Oxford English Dictionary.
BULLSHIT
That's BULLSHIT. Plain bullshit.
If you're ready to invest time to help new users, the least you can expect from them is that they at least study the available documentation before asking retarded questions. And the original question IS a retarded question as EVERY LITTLE DETAIL of his specific problem is explained for dummies in the OpenBSD FAQ and other documentation available on openbsd.org.
People like the original poster are just too lazy to read what's already there and expect others to do their homework. They expect others to waste their valuable time on stuff they could have solved easily by themselves. It's just rude to ask questions like that and expect an answer. It's an insult. An insult to the people actually trying to help and even more so an insult to the people that spent time creating the documentation.
Whiners Suck
If you don't want, to help, back off! You whine like a nancy about wasting time when you obviously care more about being an elitist prick than you do your time. Look at the time you spend arguing! You could have spent that time skipping this question and helping somebody "worthy."
Nobody is going to come in this random thread and change anything because of the time you spent so wisely on anti social behavior. If you can't be kind to the people who come in here, your help is not wanted. Good day.
And how did you help?
And how did you help here, James Bond, hmm?
You may well ask yourself
You may well ask yourself that same question.
I was, personally not
I was, personally not claiming to have helped. But, now this thread is filled with garbage commentary from whiners like you, me and Mr obnoxious fool who started the commentary. Too much peanut gallery, not enough helpfulness. Glad you took the time to join in.
No wonder the OpenBSD project
No wonder the OpenBSD project can't get supporters. Their programmers can't even upgrade the install routine to make OpenBSD even remotely usable for non-technical folk.
OpenBSD is not user's friendl
OpenBSD is not user's friendly I agree, there is not even a bootable CD to install it (Unless you buy it) but OpenBSD is widely used by pro UNIX folks over Linux/FreeBSD/NetBSD etc... cause it is very well secured and the system does not include anything particular, a part from the security stuffs.
So many people are actually using it, but those people are pros and not home users.
yes there is. cd41.iso for
yes there is. cd41.iso for 4.1, for example.
openbsd install cd
since 4.2 -current there's a complete bootable iso image on ftp.openbsd.org including all the package to install the base system. Stop flaming about openbsd, this is the best os ever.
install
The installer is very easy to use on OpenBSD
it is a simple, text based installer, that anyone should be able to figure out.
especially with the step by step instructions in the official documentation
Opinions of a geek
You're right on the count that following the installation docs makes it reasonably easy for someone even semi-competent to administer a Unix system. I believe I fall into that category.
The downside is that by comparison to most other Unix like distributions, OpenBSD is one of the most difficult to manage and install. It isn't that the tools or documentation are insufficient, they're just not friendly. During installs of Mandriva, Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOS, Slackware, Debian, Gentoo or even FreeBSD there are hand holding instructions along the way and assumed desktop configurations. Not so much with OpenBSD. I hadn't used the BSD fdisk tool in years when I put in my current install, and as a result had to have a manual on hand when I was ready to install. Granted, it might have been easier if I had just been willing to let the drive be sectioned completely automatically, but I've gotten used to tools like GNU fdisk, cfdisk and the GUI tools that come with the popular Linux distros.
I'm a manual reader, but I'm also a person who wants to see communities grow around the free software platforms. I suggest RTFM on a regular basis, but when I do I try to offer a summary of what the person is looking for, suggested areas to look into, and if possible, an excerpt from the appropriate documentation. If you take the time to do that, then you end up looking like someone helpful, teach good manners and habits. You also don't look like someone who is too conceited or ignorant to do anything but make pseudo geek comments.
For this issue, I'd recommend looking at http://www.openbsdsupport.org/KDM.html . You'll find that you can install quickly and easily and configuration is not too complex.
As a side note, I noticed a post that said you couldn't get a bootable CD, and to that I would like to point out that you can in fact download an ISO that makes a bootable CD, which is what I used.
Some of us actually enjoy
Some of us actually enjoy the challenge of installing an OS that requires a bit of intellegence. Over the years I've learned more and more, and computers in general have become so dumbed down it's unbelievable, and no fun any more. Installing OpenBSD was like going back in time, remembering when I was young, and *didn't* know everything. I actually had to read a couple of manual pages. Happy times...
>I tried installing KDE, but
>I tried installing KDE, but I am having a lot of errors in
>dependencies. I have tried to install using two different
>methods
using packaging, or compiling from the portstree, is perfectly documented; why are you trying to do things different? dependencies are resolved automaticly and without conflicts on a recent openbsd..
either a/ use packages, and simply set an environment variable to a mirror and then use pkg_add, or,
b/ use the portstree, and start 'make' in the correct directory (KDE, as wel as other large ports, specifically have makefiles that handle all the subdirectories)
don't muck about with compiling/adding libraries first; if you mess up a compile from the portstree (which is entirely your own fault), then 'make clean' first or set the correct variable in /etc/mk.conf to do this automaticly..
i repeat: it's all nicely documented...
KDE works in OpenBSD
I've been using OpenBSD for the last 6 years and during that time I have regularly compiled KDE Desktop. There are two ways to do it:
1. Install OpenBSD as normal but ensure you allocate 20gb to /usr. Then edit /etc/fstab and insert "softdep" on every line then reboot.
2. Copy across the ports package onto /usr/ then unpack it with the tar -zxf command.
3. Go to directory /usr/ports/x11/kde/ and issue the command "make && make install". On my old Dell PIII 700 laptop I need to leave this for around two days to finish.
4. Locate and run startkde.
A quicker alternative is to
1. Install OpenBSD as above then download the entire packages (over 4gb) to say /usr/packages/
2. Go into the packages directory and "pkg_add kde*" then "pkg_add koffice*".
3. Locate and run startkde.
Hope this helps.
KDE Help (almost solved...)
Hey Guys!
I'm an OpenBSD sarter (newbie). My experiences are still going in VMware. I have the same problems with KDE, ie, 8 hours compiling everything and, after that thry came some errors I couldn't understand. I was using ports. I want to THANK all of you guys who posted Help Topics and DOUBTS! That helps a lot people in the same situation. Special Thanks to you Yves!
Best Regards!
harakiri1976@gmail.com
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