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With Namesys founder Hans Reiser [interview] recently arrested as the prime suspect in the disappearance of his estranged wife, a brief thread on the lkml discussed the future of ReiserFS. Alan Cox [interview] pointed out that, "reiserfs is written by a team of people at Namesys, and particularly with reiserfs3 people at SuSE and elsewhere as well."
Alexander Lyamin, listed on the Namesys website as their "hostmaster and sysadmin", noted that the team was "rather shaken and stressed at the moment". He confirmed that ReiserFS 3.6 is currently in maintenance mode, then continued to discuss Reiser4, "we are still going through revisions, thanks to [Andrew Morton]. Chunking out patches, fixing issues and generally cleaning the house." He explained that this was the short term plan, for at least the next 6 months. Regarding the future he noted it depends on the outcome of the trial, "if it goes [the] way we hope it will go. Well... We will do fine. If it goes bad. That is where it becomes tricky. We will try to appoint a proxy to run Namesys business."
From: Kobajashi Zaghi [email blocked] To: linux-kernel Subject: The Future of ReiserFS development Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:53:02 +0200 Hi! Hans Reiser arrested on suspicion of murder. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/10/BAGERLM3RR15.DTL What is the plan? Could i migrate from reiserfs to another journaling filesystem? How will this trouble affect reiserfs development? I hope Hans innocent. Thanks, -- Kobi
From: Jan Engelhardt [email blocked] Subject: Re: The Future of ReiserFS development Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:20:39 +0200 (MEST) > What is the plan? Could i > migrate from reiserfs to another journaling filesystem? How will this > trouble affect reiserfs development? Since development has pretty much ceased already, there is nothing to lose if you continue to use reiserfs. -`J' --
From: Alan Cox [email blocked] Subject: Re: The Future of ReiserFS development Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:56:44 +0100 Ar Mer, 2006-10-11 am 10:53 +0200, ysgrifennodd Kobajashi Zaghi: > Hi! > > Hans Reiser arrested on suspicion of murder. > > http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/10/BAGERLM3RR15.DTL > > What is the plan? Could i > migrate from reiserfs to another journaling filesystem? How will this > trouble affect reiserfs development? Reiserfs is written by a team of people at Namesys, and particularly with reiserfs3 people at SuSE and elsewhere as well. Alan
From: Alexander Lyamin [email blocked] Subject: Re: The Future of ReiserFS development Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:41:03 +0400 Well, this is correct statement if we are talking about 3.6, its only bugfixes lately. Altough SuSE people used to add some new stuff like ACL support. As for reiser4, we are still going through revision, thanks to AKPM. Chunking out patches,fixing issues and generally cleaning the house. Yes, we are rather shaked and stressed at moment, altough I can not say, we didn't seen it coming. I, personally, really like how US police acted exactly like their russian counterpart: e.g. sitting on their ass for whole month, waiting, so they can declare person officially missing and then just press charges against whoever looks most vulnerable. Well, probably I am wrong. Time will show. What WE (e.g. reiser4 dev people) are planng to do ? Short term ( present + 6 months ): We will just buzz along as ussual, chunking out patches and going through review, while pursuing existing business oportunities to get some funding. Long term (6 months from now and beyond): If it goes way we hope it will go. Well... We will do fine. If it goes bad. That is where it becomes tricky. We will try to appoint a proxy to run Namesys business. Thats it for now. Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 01:20:39PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > > What is the plan? Could i > > migrate from reiserfs to another journaling filesystem? How will this > > trouble affect reiserfs development? > > Since development has pretty much ceased already, there is nothing to > lose if you continue to use reiserfs. > > > -`J' > -- > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to [email blocked] > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -- "the liberation loophole will make it clear.." lex lyamin
Future of ReiserFS
Can you say "time to enter bail mode"?
Finally
Thank you for posting the first *relevant* article regarding the whole Reiser-affair.
Other online publications have been trying to rake in the cheap hits even though their offtopic speculations had little to nothing to do with Free Software.
Ditto
I'm glad it's been addressed as well. I don't know about the cheap shots, but I do know that it's not really been posted out of fear of posting the wrong info. I hope reiser4 works out well. Reiser3, even though slammed by Hans frequently as deprecated, has worked well for me over the years. No jab at Theo Tso, it was just first to bat and was stable.
I hope Hans and his kids and wife/ex-wife are all OK. This just sucks. He was abbrasive sometimes, but what uber-intelligent people aren't. The sharpest blade is the easiest to dull. My best to him and his family, and the great kernel folks like Mr. Morton who are picking up the slack.
Reiser4 Will Continue
I have been using reiserfs v3 for about 3 years now. Never had I had a problem and I bashed that fs with hard software development, frequent power outages, and cramped space (it was partitioned). NTFS which shared the same physical drive crapped out on the drive about a year ago, still doesnt work right. But reiser just keeps going. I have been waiting for reiser4 to hit the mainstream so that I can have a little support when I make the move. I know there are others out there like me. I am going to look into giving the development team a hand, even if it is bugfixes and testing on a noncritical system of mine. No way have I waited this long only to move to some other filesystem. This reiser4 kernel exclusion saga has gone too far. Every developer who is reading this should start thinking about getting involved and supporting a fellow open source programmer in his time of need.
-- Theo
Perhaps you have bad blocks o
Perhaps you have bad blocks on the area where NTFS resides and don't have (many) bad blocks on the area where ReiserFS3 resides. Really, it doesn't say much. I've seen people who fscked up their ReiserFS and XFS countless times. It usually boils down to 1) being clueless how to repair 2) no backups 3) bugs in the FS. I stick to redundancy, backups and Ext3 and perhaps sacrifice a bit performance, yet do not have to worry.